[Is he supposed to accept that answer as is? It isn't an insubstantial thing, what he felt and what he feels even now; but they are too alike, and perhaps that makes it more difficult for Sephiroth to force open a discussion when he would act much the same -- detached, unwilling to speak on whatever ails him.
He'll push, just a little more, but leave it at that if it hits an impasse.]
Would you like to discuss it? I'll listen if you do.
[That said-]
And yes. I never planned on remaining in this world forever, even if what awaits me back on Gaia is more than what I ever had planned for.
[Look, it's... one thing to be bothering other people about inconsequential things like being stupid enough to care about a dead guy from another world. (Even that's a straight no. He'd never. If anything, because the confession is a confession of that stupidity.)
But bothering Sephiroth about it, that's... a Hell no.
The sad thing is, it's not because he sees him as an enemy anymore. Thier relationship's complicated. At first? Yes. Enemies. Then no, not enemies, because his timepoint made him innocent of any wrongdoing. But now, after everything? It's not even that any longer.
...It's because they're... f r i e n d s.
....which is weird. Beyond weird. But it is what it is.
So if anything, his aversion is because this is The Great Sephiroth, and... not some agony aunt. And he's his friend. So.]
I'm good. Like I said, I'm through it, so you shouldn't get any more blowback.
[Hopefully.
And.]
I'm gonna look into the Coven more. I want out, more than ever.
[I don't care what happens to this world any more.something having happened. Something that's as good as confirmed by Cloud, but perhaps even more affecting than Sephiroth gave it credit for.
But he has decided not to press, and so he doesn't. Maybe there's context to be gained down this track of conversation, anyhow.]
The coven says that this place can call people when it wants, right? Send them away when it wants too. If it's dying, it could've moved its people away- could've dumped them anywhere- just like it tosses us when it's had enough of us. Instead, it brought us here.
[Apparently. To save it, or to die with it? Who knew.]
Or that's bullshit. The reality could be that it's the coven that did it. Could be another group, sure. But they've got the mirrors. Shoe fits, right?
Anyway, whoever it is, they can keep doing this whenever they want. Who knows how many other planets there are that're suffering because of this.
[and finally...]
Look. With our Planet, it's probably for the best we're both out of the picture. But it doesn't make whatever's doing this any less dangerous. Tell me I'm looking at it wrong, because whatever's doing this- it's not just affecting where we're from.
There's hundreds of places that're suffering because of this.
copy/pasta failed and ate part of my prior tag... rip me
[That's a fair assessment, a realistic generalization of their situation that some might call cynical, but Sephiroth sees no reason to deny it. There's no proof one way or another; not enough to promote optimism, either.
He wonders, really, if the mystery will ever be solved -- the key to their return, if this planet will ever be cured of what plagues it. The two, he thinks, are not unrelated, regardless of who's pulling the strings.
Finally-]
That might be true. After all this time, there are still too many unknowns in the equation. Too much that we can only guess at: whether or not to take the Coven at their word has always been one of the greater mysteries.
In the end, however, I don't think it's a matter of trust. There's something that will earn us our return trip to Gaia, and we need to find it. That may require working more closely with the Coven, regardless if you believe their intentions are good or otherwise.
And if this world is the cause of more outside suffering, putting an end to the problem works for both sides. The people living here, and the ones who can be sent home. Two birds with one stone -- isn't that the saying?
[ooc; I just reread my last one and oof, some wording choices there. no more latenight tags!]
[He can't disagree with the first message. Or even add anything, really. They're both of the same opinions. Only whereas Sephiroth appears to be evenminded about the lack of information, for him, he's more critical. But the second point?
...He's unsure.]
I don't think going back is earned. Didn't happen that way for Aerith, or
[...Best not.]
Other people.
[And what remains is the point of the problem being alleviated by playing along. It's... a good faith stance. Something he struggles with.]
Would it, though? Say someone they drag in gets lucky, manages to do something that's the key to all of this, and that's that. What then? If it is the Coven, especially if it's the Coven, what's to stop them doing it again, for other reasons?
no subject
He'll push, just a little more, but leave it at that if it hits an impasse.]
Would you like to discuss it? I'll listen if you do.
[That said-]
And yes. I never planned on remaining in this world forever, even if what awaits me back on Gaia is more than what I ever had planned for.
no subject
[Look, it's... one thing to be bothering other people about inconsequential things like being stupid enough to care about a dead guy from another world. (Even that's a straight no. He'd never. If anything, because the confession is a confession of that stupidity.)
But bothering Sephiroth about it, that's... a Hell no.
The sad thing is, it's not because he sees him as an enemy anymore. Thier relationship's complicated. At first? Yes. Enemies. Then no, not enemies, because his timepoint made him innocent of any wrongdoing. But now, after everything? It's not even that any longer.
...It's because they're...
f r i e n d s.
....which is weird. Beyond weird. But it is what it is.
So if anything, his aversion is because this is The Great Sephiroth, and... not some agony aunt. And he's his friend. So.]
I'm good. Like I said, I'm through it, so you shouldn't get any more blowback.
[Hopefully.
And.]
I'm gonna look into the Coven more. I want out, more than ever.
[And Because they're friends, a confession:]
I don't care what happens to this world any more.
no subject
But he has decided not to press, and so he doesn't. Maybe there's context to be gained down this track of conversation, anyhow.]
Why the change of heart?
no subject
[Apparently. To save it, or to die with it? Who knew.]
Or that's bullshit. The reality could be that it's the coven that did it. Could be another group, sure. But they've got the mirrors. Shoe fits, right?
Anyway, whoever it is, they can keep doing this whenever they want. Who knows how many other planets there are that're suffering because of this.
[and finally...]
Look. With our Planet, it's probably for the best we're both out of the picture. But it doesn't make whatever's doing this any less dangerous. Tell me I'm looking at it wrong, because whatever's doing this- it's not just affecting where we're from.
There's hundreds of places that're suffering because of this.
copy/pasta failed and ate part of my prior tag... rip me
He wonders, really, if the mystery will ever be solved -- the key to their return, if this planet will ever be cured of what plagues it. The two, he thinks, are not unrelated, regardless of who's pulling the strings.
Finally-]
That might be true. After all this time, there are still too many unknowns in the equation. Too much that we can only guess at: whether or not to take the Coven at their word has always been one of the greater mysteries.
In the end, however, I don't think it's a matter of trust. There's something that will earn us our return trip to Gaia, and we need to find it. That may require working more closely with the Coven, regardless if you believe their intentions are good or otherwise.
And if this world is the cause of more outside suffering, putting an end to the problem works for both sides. The people living here, and the ones who can be sent home. Two birds with one stone -- isn't that the saying?
Oh no ;; tbf i wish my last one half deleted
[He can't disagree with the first message. Or even add anything, really. They're both of the same opinions. Only whereas Sephiroth appears to be evenminded about the lack of information, for him, he's more critical. But the second point?
...He's unsure.]
I don't think going back is earned. Didn't happen that way for Aerith, or
[...Best not.]
Other people.
[And what remains is the point of the problem being alleviated by playing along. It's... a good faith stance. Something he struggles with.]
Would it, though? Say someone they drag in gets lucky, manages to do something that's the key to all of this, and that's that. What then? If it is the Coven, especially if it's the Coven, what's to stop them doing it again, for other reasons?